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| webmaster: Did you hear about the $20 dollars that's to be spent on TB research? boehr: I just found out today that MUCC is having some meeting throughout the state with Wildlife Div to talk and answer questions about deer hunting. boehr: Yea, I heard but I haven't really seen exactly want it is going to be spent on webmaster: So what does that mean? *: Trout just entered this channel. *: Welcome to The Michigan Sportsman Campfire! *: Regular Chats held Thursdays, Saturdays at 8pm EST *: or whenever arranged with other Sportsmen *: Type HELP to see a list of available chat commands. *: You are on channel 1 with webmaster, boehr. boehr: It only means that MUCC and the DNR is trying to get the public involved and let them know the facts instead of rumors webmaster: Hello trout! Trout: Hi guys whats up? boehr: Hi Trout webmaster: Boehr, that can't be anything but good. I think there are a lot of misperceptions right now about what the dnr is trying to do with the deer herd. boehr: I agree 100%, we (the DNR) has to do a better job at getting out information although it's not all the DNR... webmaster: Now Fred's got a chiropractor that works on deer on his show. boehr: enough press releases go out to the press but it doesn't all get printed webmaster: The press releases that they send out over email are pretty good. *: birddog just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: birddog just entered this channel. *: Welcome to The Michigan Sportsman Campfire! *: Regular Chats held Thursdays, Saturdays at 8pm EST *: or whenever arranged with other Sportsmen *: Type HELP to see a list of available chat commands. *: You are on channel 1 with webmaster, boehr, Trout. boehr: I agree with that too but not everyone has a computer for e-mail or a local dial point to be connected without costing an arm or a leg Trout: Hi birddog webmaster: By the way guys, I'm recording the chat tonight so we can post it later on the site. Boehr, a DNR officer has joined us tonight. boehr: Hi Birddog *: RealDcoy just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: RealDcoy just entered this channel. *: Welcome to The Michigan Sportsman Campfire! *: Regular Chats held Thursdays, Saturdays at 8pm EST *: or whenever arranged with other Sportsmen *: Type HELP to see a list of available chat commands. *: You are on channel 1 with webmaster, boehr, Trout, birddog. birddog: Hello every one webmaster: Hi Real Trout: Hi realDcoy RealDcoy: Quack...... RealDcoy: Howdy all... Whats the current topic? webmaster: Well I think that the money to be spent on TB research will be money well spent. I hope they spend enough of it on the deer vs. the cattle. birddog: So Boehr whats the latest news on deer baiting Trout: boehr did you see the question about how out of state turkey hunters are notified already about the license? boehr: I wish I knew for sure but anything I said would be a guess... *: You are on channel 1 with boehr, Trout, birddog, RealDcoy. boehr: No I did not see about out of state turkey hunters birddog: Do you think there will be any baiting at all this year boehr: Where did you see that about the turkey hunters? Trout: cHECK OUT THE TUKEY FORUM IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE THANKS boehr: I think it will be pretty close to what baiting was last year but again that's a guess webmaster: Yes the Turkey forum is coming along real good. Thanks to all of you who have posted. birddog: I was just wondering with all the rumors i have been hearing that there would be no baiting webmaster: Boehr, do you think anything will be done about the places that sell bulk feed in DMU 452? RealDcoy: I didn't even see info about out-state licenses in the guide. Maybe it's not a license, just an letter of receipt? Trout: I think it will pick up even more in a few weeks boehr: That could be true but it will be up to the DNR Commission to decide Trout: It would be hard to stop the sale of bulk food though boehr: Abot the places...no...it will be up to us as hunters not to buy the bait webmaster: Yes, it is up to the hunters, but its like kids in a candy store. birddog: thats very true webmaster RealDcoy: They just buy the sugar beets to make a compost pile....Really...it's true. webmaster: Yeah right real :) Trout: Yes but what honest hunter would want to get caught with 100#s of carrots? boehr: I have to step out for a second, be right back Trout: If it was illegal webmaster: Well I'm hoping that the activity on the turkey forum will carry over to some of the fishing forums once those seasons open. Trout: Web did you read the story on maine deer yet? RealDcoy: Is mich out-of-doors an hour long tonight? thats what our paper's guide says. Trout: I think the forums will get busier as spring comes on webmaster: Yes, I did Trout. boehr: Back webmaster: Boehr, what district are you an officer in? Trout: What do you think about the Maine way? boehr: I am the Lt. in District 12 webmaster: Trout, doesn't sound too bad. Trout: Real all I have is pledge night webmaster: Where is district 12? webmaster: Well Trout Fred was on for a while, now he's asking for pledges on the Flint station. Trout: boehr what do you think about our deer do we have too many? boehr: I started as an officer in Menominee back in 81, transfer to Huron County in 86, came to District 12 as a Sgt in 97 and Lt. in Plainwell in 99 RealDcoy: For anyone coming up in the area, the Traverse City Outdoor Show is March 17-19. $4.00, Kids under 12 free birddog: well good night every one I have to go boehr: District 12 in the southwester portion of the L.P. webmaster: Later Bird, sorry you couldn't stick around longer. *: birddog just logged off. webmaster: Ahh, the southwest. So do you patrol the St. Joe River etc? *: Airoh just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: Airoh just entered this channel. *: Welcome to The Michigan Sportsman Campfire! *: Regular Chats held Thursdays, Saturdays at 8pm EST *: or whenever arranged with other Sportsmen *: Type HELP to see a list of available chat commands. *: You are on channel 1 with webmaster, boehr, Trout, RealDcoy. boehr: That is part of the District webmaster: Welcome Airoh! webmaster: Boehr have you patrolled the big lake? Airoh: Hi boehr: District 12 include the counties of Allegan, Barry, VanBuren, Kalamazoo, Calhoun, Branch, Cass, St Joe and Berrien boehr: My officers do now, I have as an officer been in Lake Michigan and Green Bay, Saginaw Bay and Lake Huron RealDcoy: I am gonna fly & watch Mich-out-of doors. Back soon if it doesn't interest me. boehr: By Dcoy *: RealDcoy just logged off. webmaster: Boehr, why do we have an officer in Green Bay? boehr: Menominee County has part of Green Bay for a shoreline boehr: Green Bay is a bay of Lake Michigan webmaster: Ahh, I see. Trout: You learn something all the time webmaster: So is anybody getting fired up for trout season like me. Boy with those last couple of warm days it really gets you thinking about it. boehr: In District 12 we have fish all over Trout: I've been fishing from shore but no bites boehr: The last few days they were catch limits of coho and browns off the pier in St Joe webmaster: Fred's practically on his knees begging for money. I feel sorry for him. Trout: SAD SAD SAD webmaster: Yeah, boehr seems like we're getting lots of good reports on our forums from that area. boehr: One of my officer, a sergeant went out two mornings ago off the pier and had his limit by 7:15 am webmaster: Wow, that would really be something Boehr. boehr: Some of the steelhead, not many but a few have already spawned Trout: The west side has more rivers to fish doesn't it? boehr: Water temp in the creeks is getting close to 45 webmaster: That's about right where it should be to get the runs going right? boehr: Rivers all over, St Joe with a lot of feeders, Black River, Kalamazoo River Trout: I think Lake Huron is 38 *: Redeye just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: You are on channel 1 with boehr, Trout, Airoh. *: Redeye just entered this channel. *: Welcome to The Michigan Sportsman Campfire! *: Regular Chats held Thursdays, Saturdays at 8pm EST *: or whenever arranged with other Sportsmen *: Type HELP to see a list of available chat commands. *: You are on channel 1 with webmaster, boehr, Trout, Airoh. boehr: It will take the big water longer to warm up webmaster: Airoh, you still out there? webmaster: Hello Redeye, what's on your mind? Trout: Web if you go to the fly show Ron Barch will have a booth look him up. webmaster: I will. Airoh: Yeah I'm just listening in, I don't fish that much . But you guys make me want to! webmaster: Oh my god airoh, you must try trout fishing. webmaster: To do it in streams doesn't even require much of an investment. I mean I started just wading with jeans and tennis shoes. Airoh: I did fish paint creek webmaster: Its like hunting for fish. *: Redeye just logged off. Trout: Airoh I fish alot at night to keep me going else I get bored Trout: And wool socks Airoh: I bullhead fished at night on the backwaters of the au sauble Trout: Any big cats? webmaster: Airoh, paint creek is one of my favorites and right in my backyard, relatively speaking. I simply must get there this year. Airoh: No always little ones Trout: Try really big bait webmaster: I believe some steelies have been making it into Paint Creek once in a while. Airoh: Web Do you think the tube they put in at Lake Orion helped the Creek? webmaster: Fred's talking up his website now. Says you have to be a member to get all the information on it. Trout: You really need to drive up and try the Black water level are good webmaster: Oh, airoh that tube was the best thing ever. Its added lots of habitat, probably several miles. webmaster: Fred, doesn't understand the web. Yahoo didn't become a billion dollar company by charging for people to use it. Airoh: That's great, It was a cesspool when Iwas a Kid> Trout: I see stick bow now charges for the classifids webmaster: Yes, the upper reaches were not that great. The bottom streaches were better because of the cold groundwater. Now the upper reaches have cold water too. webmaster: Trout, stickbow charges as well as www.flyshop.com. Now come on, I would just go to ebay which is free. Trout: Is it an spill tube feeding the creek? Trout: I won't pay anyone webmaster: Yes trout a bottom draw spill tube. webmaster: Wow, Fred just said his show is not even on during this Thursday pledge night in Detroit. That is really sad. Trout: I need to check out that creek Airoh: Are you in the area Trout? webmaster: Its probably about as far from you Trout as it is for me. Trout: Detroit always bumps the outdoor shows webmaster: Boehr, you still out there? boehr: You must be getting something different that I am, Fre just was bass fissing on the program I'm watching Trout: I live a the bottom of lake huron airoh webmaster: Wow, boehr that's weird. Trout: north of port huron webmaster: Well Trout it may be a little further for you. webmaster: Yeah, boehr they are going to go to the show where he tries to fish with Hellgamits for Bass. That show is hillarious. Airoh: We used to sail boat at Port Sanilac Trout: The browns are biting there webmaster: The best fred show ever though, was the one where he tries to fish out a snapper with his bare hands. boehr: That was the one webmaster: I wouldn't touch one of those Hellgamites Boehr. *: Airoh just melted into a meaningless puddle of ooze and is now gone. boehr: I have before and I have tried before, some are faster than they look *: Airoh just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: Airoh just entered this channel. *: Welcome to The Michigan Sportsman Campfire! *: Regular Chats held Thursdays, Saturdays at 8pm EST *: or whenever arranged with other Sportsmen *: Type HELP to see a list of available chat commands. *: You are on channel 1 with webmaster, boehr, Trout. boehr: Most of the time when I've tried to get them out of the road webmaster: Hey Airoh, welcome back. What happened did your connection drop? Airoh: server error webmaster: I'll stick with crawlers. Airoh: What's that? Trout: Try grabbing a softshell turtle webmaster: Airoh, we were talking about the Fred show with the Hellgamites. Airoh: I saw that show webmaster: They do catch a lot of fish with them, but man I thought leeches were bad. Trout: Airoh I put a recurve up for sale check it out,maybe someone you know may be in the market Airoh: Will do! webmaster: On our forums Airoh? webmaster: Are you a longbow hunter Trout? Airoh: Huh? Trout: Boehr do you think we have too many deer? boehr: In places yes, in other places no webmaster: Good question Trout. Trout: I have a recurve and a selfbow(longbow I made) boehr: Calhoun County has way too many boehr: but that's because it's all private and not alot ofoutsiders are allowed to hunt webmaster: You hear so many stories, even Dave Richie the writer for the Freep complaining that they saw no deer this year. Trout: Is it farmland? boehr: I believe some of it is not remembering what it was in the 70's Trout: Can we expect a boom in areas that are less populated? boehr: I remember hunting in the late 60's and if I seen 2 or 3 deer (in the UP) for the who second week I thought that was great. Airoh: Yeah same here boehr webmaster: Yes, I can remember going out with my dad in the late seventies and seeing nothing. I was thinking this doesn't seem like too much fun. This year I took out my 6 year old and we saw 8 deer in an boehr: Trout, what do you mean by boom in less populated ares? webmaster: hour two of them bucks. And he wanted to go home, can you believe it? boehr: Well kids are active and it's all part of learning and appreciating Trout: An upswing in the low deer areas will the deer repro more fawns/ webmaster: Yeah, I'm sure he will do better this year. And I'm positive he will be asking to go. Airoh: Wait till your kid gets his first one, it'll be something else for you. boehr: I don't know about reproducing more fawns, a lot depends on over all hunting pressure, habitat etc webmaster: Yeah, airoh, I'm waiting till they can help me drag one out. boehr: Population does have a bearing because or urban sprawl and loss of habitat Trout: Boehr do you think we will have an over the counter turkey license any time soon like Ohio? boehr: I can still remember getting ready as a kid to go with my dad to the cabin in the UP Trout: I would like to have a cabin in the UP just for the peacefullness boehr: Yes it's very possible, in fact you might see, very soon for fall turkey being able to take two birds in the fall but one has to NOT have a beard webmaster: Boehr I've always wondered why you were only allowed to take beards. Trout: That would work for me! webmaster: Seems like there is plenty of turkeys in most areas. boehr: I wish we still had the cabin but no longer, maybe I will again some day boehr: So the hens were around to bred Trout: How much is land in the UP is it affordable ? Airoh: Boehr,, are you concerned at all withthe northern birds over the next few years? webmaster: Trout, the land up there is much cheaper than the LP. boehr: The turkey population is good but success runs anywhere from abour 60% to 25% depending where you hunt Trout: I like that I'll post a wanted to buy LC in the forums boehr: More affordable that in the lower webmaster: I sure haven't got a whole lot of responses to my wanted add. Seems like everyone wants to buy. boehr: There is some concern but I believe it will work out OK with the northern birds Airoh: Good to hear webmaster: Well guys Boehr has hung around for over an hour now. Probably time for a wrap. Trout: What kind of concern webmaster: Unless anyone has another pressing question..... boehr: Take care guys, I'll be around and chat some more on other nights. Airoh: boehr sounds like you're on the west side, do they move you around? webmaster: Thanks for appearing here Boehr. *: webmaster just logged off. Trout: See ya take care Airoh: Thanks boehr boehr: Only when you want to move basically *: boehr just logged off. Airoh: See ya! Trout: Airoh the bow I posted is a custom made bow *: People online now (all channels): Trout, Airoh. Trout: I injured my shoulder and it is too heavy at 58#s *: Airoh just melted into a meaningless puddle of ooze and is now gone. *: People online now (all channels): Trout. Trout: I guess it's time too follow suit Trout: Bye *: Trout just logged off. 
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